tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37352287.post7226112628344046952..comments2023-11-03T11:11:57.989+01:00Comments on Chronicles from the Front: Of Mosques and Men, cont'dLazy Disciplehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05839410764981702225noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37352287.post-47818366210501488442010-09-12T01:49:21.927+01:002010-09-12T01:49:21.927+01:00I specifically disagree with your idea that the fi...I specifically disagree with your idea that the first amendment guarantees that religion will vigorous debate in the public square. The first amendment necessary leads to this, but it is my understanding that the amendment itself guarantees the right for people to practice their own religion. <br /><br />I also don't agree with your answer to whether or not Islam has a problem with violence as being lower Manhattan. One could argue that Islam espouses violent tactics, but, and I probably sound crazy, I don't think the events of 9/11 are a fair way to portray the values of the Islamic faith. I think it does, however, portray a hatred for American capitalism and politcal strength, and a hatred that comes from losing corrupt political power. <br /><br />I'm doubtful that that whether Islam is compatible with Western civilization is even a relevant question in our society. The answer doesn't seem to matter. What would answering or debating such a question accompish?Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793291964836599064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37352287.post-80315917298293301362010-09-11T13:02:05.664+01:002010-09-11T13:02:05.664+01:00Dear Maria,
Good to hear from you.
Can you draw ...Dear Maria,<br /><br />Good to hear from you.<br /><br />Can you draw out your disagreement a little further, please? <br /><br />I suspect that you want more from my statement about letting Muslims come to lower Manhattan, etc., than I do.<br /><br />Best,<br />LDLazy Disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05839410764981702225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37352287.post-25971262317384864472010-09-11T12:16:38.771+01:002010-09-11T12:16:38.771+01:00Sorry, I meant to say that victims of priest sexua...Sorry, I meant to say that victims of priest sexual abuse have become sex offenders in the case of two individuals I work with.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793291964836599064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37352287.post-39761382376818969972010-09-11T12:14:58.447+01:002010-09-11T12:14:58.447+01:00So, my bleeding liberal heart is convulsing (and i...So, my bleeding liberal heart is convulsing (and it's not even that big). It's my understanding that the freedom of religion was that people are free to practice their religion as long as it does not interfere with the law of the land. Building the mosque is bizarre and tactless, but of course there isn't any real "reason" by law why they can't do it, so I agree with you there. I don't agree that religious freedom, ie the first ammendment, was given so that religion could be subject to "vigorous debate", although inevitable that is what arises. And many people in our society are not capable of "rational public deliberation", I think the legality of abortion demonstrates this, but their freedom of religion stands regardless. But yes, it would be a disaster if we were truly incapable of self-government. I know there's no getting around it, but to say that the answer to the question of Islam and violence is in lower Manhattan I find is unfair. I do. And I'm sure you know that Catholics even up to the election of JFK were thought to be unfit for public office because their allegiance was first to the pope, not America. I think America today owes as much to Catholics as it does to Muslims, which again, is fair, rational treatment: in the public sphere, in the media, and on the streets. Could one reasonably compare the damage of abused children by the Catholic church with the violence committed by Muslims on American soil? From my work with exoffenders, I have found that it's not unusual for victims of sexual abuse to become sex offenders (I know of at least two such situations just in my own unit). So the effects of that violence is ongoing. I know that's pretty bold, but I think it's worth discussion.Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793291964836599064noreply@blogger.com